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The most intelligent thing a politician has EVER said about religion

Posted by Matthew on February 10, 2008 at 9:38 am

Candidate Barack Obama:

“For one, they need to understand the critical role that the separation of church and state has played in preserving not only our democracy, but the robustness of our religious practice. Folks tend to forget that during our founding, it wasn’t the atheists or the civil libertarians who were the most effective champions of the First Amendment. It was the persecuted minorities, it was Baptists like John Leland who didn’t want the established churches to impose their views on folks who were getting happy out in the fields and teaching the scripture to slaves. It was the forbearers of the evangelicals who were the most adamant about not mingling government with religious, because they did not want state-sponsored religion hindering their ability to practice their faith as they understood it.

Moreover, given the increasing diversity of America’s population, the dangers of sectarianism have never been greater. Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.

And even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools? Would we go with James Dobson’s, or Al Sharpton’s? Which passages of Scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is ok and that eating shellfish is abomination? How about Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount - a passage that is so radical that it’s doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application? So before we get carried away, let’s read our bibles. Folks haven’t been reading their bibles.

This brings me to my second point. Democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal, rather than religion-specific, values. It requires that their proposals be subject to argument, and amenable to reason. I may be opposed to abortion for religious reasons, but if I seek to pass a law banning the practice, I cannot simply point to the teachings of my church or evoke God’s will. I have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all.”

Please let this man be our next president.

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10 comments

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Posted by dave, February 10, 2008 at 10:55 am

I think Obama watched The West Wing, this is straight out of a speech from Jed Bartlett in the first season.

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Posted by nick, February 12, 2008 at 7:48 pm

I must agree with Matt, this is quite possibly the smartest thing I’ve heard a politician say, ever. I want to know who he has in mind for his cabinet / staff though. In addition to being a complete nimrod, Bush surrounded himself by people serving their own interests in addition to his. The West Wing may have been fiction, but if nothing else it should have depicted that the White House may revolve around the President, but it sure as hell isn’t run by him. It’s like trying to run a hospital with no nurses. I think Barack is smart enough to pick a good cabinet and staff, but I’m far from being politically astute. He’s gotta win the Democratic ticket before we can start making wishes for the election though.

@Dave
And as an avid fan, i see nothing wrong with that :) If Aaron Sorkin wasn’t such a crack head I’d suggest that HE run for President, with Martin Sheen as his COS and either Rob Lowe or Jimmy Smits as his VPOTUS :).

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Posted by but are they listening, February 15, 2008 at 7:37 am

Sure we love a lot of his speeches, but how will that fall on the ears of bubba and bible thumper, who prefer speeches like “free ammunition Sundays”and “Jesus said ‘preach loudly and carry a lot of nukes’”

Ok nobody said that but you know what I mean. How can we dismantle the right wing media machine? If “the people” were paying any attention at all they would have already burned down the white house and given Texas back to Mexico.

Just my 0.01 euro… Equal to $0.02

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Posted by Benny, March 6, 2008 at 1:11 pm

There is some wisdom in this article but Obama should stick to politics and philanthropy because when it comes to theology he really doesn’t have a clue.

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Posted by brady, March 6, 2008 at 7:37 pm

Outstanding speech… where and when did he deliver it?

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Posted by Mike, March 16, 2008 at 7:00 pm

Obama has great people writing his speaches and says thing that don’t hold a lot of water. His foreign policy is so bad, he’s pissing of Canada. He is embarrassed to have pictures show up of him in is father’s country or origin’s traditional wardrobe and he wants to suppress his middle name of Hussein. He says the magical words “change” and “hope” but so far, he hasn’t shown the path for the change. I would never vote for him, but before all you libs hold him on a pedistal, wait til he has something of substance to say. -From a proud American and Republican.

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Posted by Ishmael, April 25, 2008 at 12:41 pm

“Obama has great people writing his speaches and says thing that don’t hold a lot of water. His foreign policy is so bad, he’s pissing of Canada. He is embarrassed to have pictures show up of him in is father’s country or origin’s traditional wardrobe and he wants to suppress his middle name of Hussein. He says the magical words “change” and “hope” but so far, he hasn’t shown the path for the change. I would never vote for him, but before all you libs hold him on a pedistal, wait til he has something of substance to say. -From a proud American and Republican.”

Mike, why are you copy and pasting GOP propaganda? Are you a bot?

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Posted by smitts, May 12, 2008 at 3:23 pm

Maybe that is just what he sees as the truth, just because somone else also said it does not make him a bot, if you don’t agree, then fine. But don’t be insulting about it, that just shows what kind of person you are.

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Posted by ansia, May 23, 2008 at 6:47 pm

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